This law does not entitle a person whose core identity is male to use the women’s room, or whose core identity is female to use the men’s room. No idea about Michigan.ĭoes this mean that men will be able to dress up as women and use the women’s room? In some US jurisdictions there are laws in place protecting a trans gender persons right to use the bathroom (which would be an equivalent situation) that matches their gender identity, in others there is not. With US law being such a complex mix of federal, state county and city law I don't know exactly what the discrimination laws are where the gym is, just postulating that there is a chance that discrimination laws may make it illegal for the gym to force a trans person to use a changing room other than the one that matches their gender identity. I was referring specifically to the actions of the gym, not her actions. I didn't say she had broken discrimination laws, I said "discrimination laws may have affected this". Perhaps before being passive aggressive about reading you should make sure you have understood what was written correctly. The post stated he thought she might have violated discrimination laws. Maybe some privacy stalls could be put in place. Now that being said, what do we do about it? The transgender person has as much right as anyone to use a gym locker room. Why should other women be comfortable about this? Simply because people say they should be? Your a bad person if you don't just shut up, and accept that a man can be in the locker room with you? I don't buy it. So, they have all the body parts, and sexual inclination of a heterosexual male, but something in their head says they are female. I know a transgender, a male who identifies as female, and now says that they are a lesbian. More people are uneasy with this situation. The other side is that, yep they got good press for people who are disposed to the issue, but they also got bad press for everyone else. Please show me the discrimination law she violated. I don't know the details of US law, but it wouldn't surprise me if discrimination laws also affected this. Tell the woman making the complaint that she was wrong then throw her out if she carried on making a fuss. Most businesses would do exactly what this gym did. I'm borderline on public nudity, but in a gym changing room? Welcome to the modern world where transsexuals exist. "I don't want to see that" is not objective. If there is an objective reason then fine. It is not about respecting others, but arbitrary lines people have made in what should and should not be seen in public. Perhaps they should wear a balaclava or ban fat people from wearing Lycra int he gym so I don't have to see it? (Again, I don't actually care, just making a point). How is it respecting others? I don't like seeing fat people or ugly people (I don't actually feel this way, just making a point). so really there could be very little problem with this sort of situation in the OP. 6x8? 8x10? I go straight from school to the gym, change in the restroom, and i go straight home after working out. It has two restrooms that are "single occupant" (though there's space for more people) of a similar size to many roadside gas station restrooms, so roughly. The gym I go to has no changing room per se. I've seen so many articles online about "decency" and modesty" everything from mothers in the US breastfeeding in public to this gym thing, and the common comment is "cover up because it respects OTHERS" Well, if it's really about respect, then perhaps Trans folks should "respect" others and not change in a semi-public place, or do so in such a way that NO ONE is any the wiser. Personally, I am with the actual woman who complained here. Think of that, only a bit more extreme (due to our Puritan obsession with skin being so icky) the guy who's walked in is "visually assaulted" by women in towels, bathing suits etc., so he walks out, looks at the sign, and embarrassedly walks into the other room, for it to be repeated) Obviously, there's the bit about how Western society apparently brain washes women into believing that if there's ever a man in a changing room he has ill intent, or that people are out to get them But aside from that, I think there's got to be a bit of the "Surprise!" factor going on.Īnyone seen the youtube clips of the bathroom prank? (a guy walks into the "mens" restroom, and someone outside swaps the signs. I would imagine that if I were a woman and a member of a gym with locker rooms, and I walked in to shower/change before/after my workout and saw a real life penis hanging out for the "world" to see, I'd probably be a bit freaked out too. most of this thread has been somewhat focused on the purportedly "trans" person. I think there's something to be said for the woman here.
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